Showing posts with label artbash. Show all posts
Showing posts with label artbash. Show all posts

Thursday, 16 August 2007

Trash talking on Artbash

Yeah, I'll admit it. I lurk on Artbash. Sometimes I laugh at Artbash. But I never contribute.

Over the last few weeks, there's been a rash of reviews, apparently by students enrolled in a contextual studies course at a tertiary institution (going by the Wellington skew, I'd guess Massey).

There's been grumbling from Artbash regulars over the quality of the writing and thinking in these reviews - and fair cop to, in some cases. A review of Richard Serra's Tilted Arc, describing it as a ineffectual public sculpture about the Vietnam War, drew particular ire. (One site regular plausibly suggests that the writer was actually reviewing Maya Lin's Vietnam memorial, and got a bit confused).

In response to the criticism, one of the students posted this comment:

You wanna know the hilarious things Alibi... you're right, we are here completing projects that we have to do for our contextual studies -- and yes, some of our writing might be garbage as you and John have pointed out in some other comments.(we're obviously not as intelligent as you appear to be!)

None of us want to post on here because the environment is completely negative and does not inspire me to want to engage with any of you and learn anything from you at all. While I agree with what it says on this page about criticism being good (and therefore encouraged)-- there's a difference, I think the criticism we're looking for is 'constructive'.

So, don't worry, we are all meeting with our 'teacher' to get our 'homework' marked today, so you can be glad that many of us will probably disappear and you can have your elitist website back.

To which John Hurrell replied:

The site is hardly 'elitist', Jabby, and hardly 'negative' when regulars mutter about the site being bombarded by contributors who lack the conviction to stand their ground and argue their point of view.

If you write when you don't want to and say things you don't mean, what use is that? The result is clutter with no substance.

The review and its comment thread have now been moved to the trash section of the site. Which is one way of arguing your point of view.

Wednesday, 15 August 2007

It ain't easy being an editor

John Hurrell's most recent comments on Artbash:

15 Aug 2007 12:48 pm: Your article needs images. They are essential.

15 Aug 2007 12:47 pm: I'm not sure whether a non NZ work should be discussed on Artbash. Please paste on an image.

15 Aug 2007 8:08 am: Do you think your council is stable, Alibi? I've heard they are heading the way of say Hamilton, Wanganui, Invercargill and Palmerston North - thinking of merging the galleries /museums with libraries or theatres. And removing the galleries' independence. If so, no art professional with half a brain would want to work there. The environment would be far too hostile.

14 Aug 2007 8:59 pm: The magic word begins with 'I' and ends with 'es'.

14 Aug 2007 8:57 pm: I-m-a-g-e-s, yullofello pretty please

14 Aug 2007 8:55 pm: Some images, please...

14 Aug 2007 8:54 pm: We need images of the work, Akiras.

14 Aug 2007 8:52 pm: Please give us some images, b-man.

Monday, 16 April 2007

Artless

Artbash is calling for a new name (on the basis that the current one screams of negativity. This point is disputed by John Hurrell, who feels the site is an "even balance between critique and celebration". And then he suggested "the pashin' art people".)

New name for Artbash? - Artbash website

The Bashers should check out this article on ThinkVitamin.com which recommends a process for naming a digital product that involves constraints, time, user-testing and one-syllable names starting with a hard consonant ....

How to name your company - ThinkVitamin.com

Tuesday, 13 February 2007

The what, John?


Sometimes artist's talks can be doubly revealing.

At the first public programme accompanying City Gallery Wellington's Telecom Prospect 2007 exhibition, Rohan Wealleans was talking about his work Cold Comfort, when John Hurrell (of Artbash) asked him whether he thought that using polystyrene in the work altered its meaning. Rohan , rather bemused, peered at John through his sunglasses and said "The what, John?".

Image: Rohan Wealleans, Cold Comfort, 2006. Acrylic on nylon, polystyrene, metal and wood.

Wednesday, 31 January 2007

The bash is back

Artbash seems, after a few months of summertime languishing, to have sprung back to life. Well, 'sprung' might not be the right word, but some of the regular contributors, including John Hurrell and 'Jean' (Emily Cormack) are posting again.

Artbash describes itself as:

... an online community of New Zealanders who love art and love to talk about art. Sometimes things get a bit scrappy, but generally there are a bunch of intelligent and educated (well, we've been to art-school anyway) people to interact with.

Run out of Christchurch, it can be a bit Christchurch-centric, although Hurrell does his best to broaden the discussion. On the other (even) hand, it can be interesting to follow a community that's largely talking to and about itself - for example, the Christchurch Art Gallery review, restructure and re-staffing.

So - welcome back Artbash. Looking forward to seeing some sparks fly: Prospect 2007 would be a good launch pad.